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Today I am puzzled/bemused by . . .
« on: April 19, 2012, 11:05:43 AM »
Conversation with a colleague, with whom I have a lot in common and consider to be highly intelligent, well educated (to Masters level) sane and with sound views.  She's a lesbian, feminist, atheist, left wing and NOT a cultural/moral relativist then shatters all my respect in one fell swoop by asking what star sign my husband is and starts comparing hers and his characteristics as they are both Capricorns. :rolleyes:  How can one reject religion and the notion of a deity yet espouse this total bollocks?  They're pretty much on a par with one another in my view. :rolleyes:
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Re: Today I am puzzled/bemused by . . .
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 11:09:44 AM »
People who believe in astrology were born under the wrong star sign.

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2012, 12:33:12 PM »
A new venture aiming to mine asteroids...

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Re: Today I am puzzled/bemused by . . .
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2012, 12:36:10 PM »
I've never "understood" astrology, it's just a bit of fun thesedays isn't it ?

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Re: Today I am puzzled/bemused by . . .
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 01:04:37 PM »
I always feel a little betrayed and angry when I discover someone I thought was a rational, level headed person turns out to be a Christian.

It's almost if they had said they were members of the Flat Earth Society or some other fringe lunatic group.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 01:08:13 PM »
I always feel a little betrayed and angry when I discover someone I thought was a rational, level headed person turns out to be a Christian.

It's almost if they had said they were members of the Flat Earth Society or some other fringe lunatic group.
I agree.  I always feel duped and a sense of acute disappointment. :(
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 01:25:08 PM »
I think I would be less upset (infact not bothered at all) if someone said they worshipped trees and rocks though, at lest they actually exist, and tend not to tell you how to live your life (though if they were talking I'd be concerned)



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Re: Today I am puzzled/bemused by . . .
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 06:24:12 PM »
People who believe in astrology were born under the wrong star sign.

That's such a Virgo* thing to say.


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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 06:29:55 PM »
You don't have to be stupid to be irrational.

It helps, but irrationality is the default setting for all of us. Some very intelligent people believe some truly ridiculous codswallop.

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Re: Today I am puzzled/bemused by . . .
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2012, 07:22:15 PM »
I always feel a little betrayed and angry when I discover someone I thought was a rational, level headed person turns out to be a Christian.

It's almost if they had said they were members of the Flat Earth Society or some other fringe lunatic group.
I agree.  I always feel duped and a sense of acute disappointment. :(
I think I would be less upset (infact not bothered at all) if someone said they worshipped trees and rocks though, at lest they actually exist, and tend not to tell you how to live your life (though if they were talking I'd be concerned)
:( :huh: :confused:Christ lets have a bit of perspective. You talk about it like they're child molesters or murderers
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2012, 08:05:46 PM »
You don't have to be stupid to be irrational.

It helps, but irrationality is the default setting for all of us. Some very intelligent people believe some truly ridiculous codswallop.
I hold my hands up to irrational fears rather than beliefs. Some would argue that they're one and the same.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2012, 09:23:25 PM »
:( :huh: :confused:Christ lets have a bit of perspective. You talk about it like they're child molesters or murderers

So you know some Catholic priests, then?   :hihi:

As Dawkins says, religion is a kind of mass delusion and a form of madness. Are you happy dealing with people who listen to  voices and are basically delusional?
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Re: Today I am puzzled/bemused by . . .
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2012, 09:40:09 PM »
So you know some Catholic priests, then?   :hihi:

As Dawkins says, religion is a kind of mass delusion and a form of madness. Are you happy dealing with people who listen to  voices and are basically delusional?
No but neither am I happy with people who are religiously peddling their atheism. Kind of misses the point a bit doesn't it?

I'm an atheist and when I was younger I was pretty militant about it but as I get older I feel secure enough in what I believe, so secure that i'm not so insecure that I don't need to desperately need to try to convert everyone to my way of thinking.
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2012, 09:45:30 PM »
No but neither am I happy with people who are religiously peddling their atheism. Kind of misses the point a bit doesn't it?

I'm an atheist and when I was younger I was pretty militant about it but as I get older I feel secure enough in what I believe, so secure that i'm not so insecure that I don't need to desperately need to try to convert everyone to my way of thinking.
Peddling atheism? Trying to convert? How do you arrive at that conclusion? I've been accused of being a militant atheist on SF, it seems the default position applied to anyone who rejects theism these days. I don't seek to convert anyone but will debate with theists given the opportunity.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2012, 09:49:41 PM »
No but neither am I happy with people who are religiously peddling their atheism. Kind of misses the point a bit doesn't it?

I'm an atheist and when I was younger I was pretty militant about it but as I get older I feel secure enough in what I believe, so secure that i'm not so insecure that I don't need to desperately need to try to convert everyone to my way of thinking.

I don't see anyone peddling atheism. Just saying that it's a shock/disappointment when someone who you thought was "normal" admits to being a Christian. In the same way we might be shocked if a workmate admitted to being a devil worshipper, for example.
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